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... в течение суток. (очередная церковно-политическая лабуда).

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fr. Andrew Sidnev [mailto:rcgoc@mail.ru]
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:46 PM
> To: orthodox-tradition@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [paradosis] ROAC and New World Order
>
>
> Dear list,
>
> There is a rather interesting comment on my post by Mr. Lurie.
>
> Here is what he writes about me:
>
> "The author lives in Russia and is a priest of the Matthewite
> Synod. That
> Synod is fully orthodox, but people who join with it in
> Russia are not
> entirely sound. Of course, they will have no weight - but the
> weight of a
> small coin - in the church Realpolitik of their synod."
>
> What is interesting in this case are the remarks of Mr. Lurie
> about the
> real politics of our Synod, with which he is obviously
> acqainted better
> than anyone. One should notice, that the Vertograd team
> has already
> dedicated to the issue of the "politics" of our Synod a whole
> series of
> materials, having formulated point by point what should
> happen with the
> "fully orthodox" Matthewites. Specifically: our Synod should
> split. The
> marginal elements of the Matthewite Synod (i.e. Metr. Kerykos
> of Mesogaia
> and the theologian Eleutherios Goutzidis) shall be expelled to
> the "pitch
> darkness" and thanks to that new schism all old calendarists of
> Greece will
> finally unite. Of course, they will unite with the Synod of the
> paedophile
> Valentine and after that there will come the True-Orthodox
> International
> with Mr. Lurie at its head.
>
> Allow me to add that all those gentlemen - Lurie, Mitrenina
> and their
> adherents - appear on Kreml.org as "experts", i.e. the most
> competent and
> valuable informers of the Russian government on the issues of
> the "True
> Orthodoxy".
>
> One should learn from them how politics is to be played.
>
> Priest Andrew Sidnev.

Вопрос.

Date: 2003-04-01 09:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] temich.livejournal.com
Отец Григорий, я прочитал в Апостольских правилах, что кто сам сделает себя скопцом, то да будет анафемствован. А как же это сочетается со словами Христа: "И если правая рука соблазняет тебя, то вырви ее и брось от себя"?

Re: Вопрос.

Date: 2003-04-01 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hgr.livejournal.com
см. Ориген, Толкование Ев. от Мф., на соотв. стихи. но это только по-гречески.

если всё понимать буквально, козленочком станешь, но всё понимать можно только изнутри Священного Предания, изнутри которого написано и само Писание.

Re: Вопрос.

Date: 2003-04-02 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] temich.livejournal.com
Поятно... Блин, что же все на то на греческом, то на французком! Хоть бы на английском что-ли было:)

Re: Вопрос.

Date: 2003-04-02 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hgr.livejournal.com
вероятно, Ориген этот на англ. есть. попробуйте поискать. если же нет -- ищите вообще святых отцов с толкованием на это место.

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